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For your spiritual entertainment ~

~ Nisargadatta responding to questions

Nisargadatta:

Dream occurs in objective, material, manifestation, in the consciousness. It is not you, it is something other – objective, material.

What you call “I Am” and birth, you are not that, it is material.

Suppose that there is a Muslim boy that I have adopted; I have not sired that boy, but
I now claim him as “my” boy. Like that, this “I Amness” is not directly me, it is something other, something material, something Muslim (in this context), I am not that.

I, the Absolute, have nothing to do with that.

People are sometimes confused because they expect an answer which is based on their concepts. You ask someone to bring you a spoon, and instead he brings you a needle. Both are words, both are knowledge, but that is not what you want. What you will receive is the true knowledge, even if what you are asking for is not the true knowledge.

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Q: I must reach that level to be able to understand.

Nisargadatta:

There are millions of grains, made into millions of forms, but the seed is only one. All these millions of forms are because of some particular seed, but I am not that seed.

The Ultimate knowledge does not have any knowledge. This knowledge “I Am” has appeared spontaneously, as a result of the body.

See it as it is, understand it as it is.

When the waking state is gone, sleep begins, when sleep is gone, the waking state begins. When both are gone, I am at home. Why did they leave me? Because it was all foreign, it was not me.

Take this advice: better not to be trapped in the spiritual knowledge business; have a nice time, a good life, be of service to others, and in due course, when the time is ripe, you will die.

(source: Nisargadatta, Prior to Consciousness, PDF file p. 111)

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My Comment:

Nisargadatta uses the term knowledge to mean “to know something” and also to mean “the sense of being”, or also “the sense of ‘I Am'”. In this statement: “The Ultimate knowledge does not have any knowledge. This knowledge ‘I Am’ has appeared spontaneously, as a result of the body.” he is pointing us to the state of the Absolute which does not “know” Itself as a subject knows an object. That is why we have such difficulty realizing that our search is pointless as long as we are looking for something outside or other than ourselves.

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