The belief that the world is real


What inspired me today:

… unless the belief that the world is real is removed…

Nan Yar Verse 6


“The mind,” I said, “is moon-clear, the world and its thousand shapes but dreams to shine upon.” Han Shan, Poet of Cold Mountain


Ramana Talks – Talk 41:

“We are in our Self. We are not in the world. … You carry heaven and hell with you. Your lust, anger, etc., produce these regions. They are like dreams.

Q: The Gita says that if a man fixes his attention between the eyebrows and holds his breath he reaches the Supreme State. How is it done?

R: You are always in the Self and there is no reaching it. The eyebrow is only a place where attention is fixed (seat of meditation).

Q: What is Heart?

R: It is the center of the Self. The Self is the center of centers. The Heart represents the psychic center and not the physical center.

Q: Is a man to engage in teaching his knowledge however imperfect?

R: If his prarabdha (a collection of past karmas, which are ready to be experienced through the present body)  be that way. In the seventh chapter, Arjuna asks if Karma is a method (for realization – sadhana). Krishna answers that it is so if done without the sense of doership. So also are Karmas approved by scriptures which deny Karma. The Karma disapproved by them is that which is done with the sense of doership. Do not leave Karma. You cannot do so. Give up the sense of doership. Karma will go on automatically. Or Karma will drop away from you. If Karma be your lot according to prarabdha, it will surely be done whether you will it or not; if Karma be not your lot, it will not be done even if you intently engage in it. Janaka, Suka, etc., were also in work without ahankara (identification or attachment of one’s ego – the sense of the limited ‘I”). Karma may be done for fame, or may be done unselfishly and for the public good. Yet even then they want applause. So it is really selfish.

Q: What is that one thing, knowing which all doubts are solved?

R: Know the doubter. If the doubter be held, the doubts will not arise. Here the doubter is transcendent. Again when the doubter ceases to exist, there will be no doubts arising. From where will they arise? All are jnanis (awakened ones), jivanmuktas (liberated ones). Only they are not aware of the fact. Doubts must be uprooted. This means that the doubter must be uprooted. Here the doubter is the mind.”

Ramana: (“Nan Yar – Who am I?”) – Verse 6: “The seer and the object seen are like the rope and the snake. Just as the knowledge of the rope which is the substrate will not arise unless the false knowledge of the illusory serpent goes, so the realization of the Self which is the substrate will not be gained unless the belief that the world is real is removed.”




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