“Apart, from us where is time and where is space? If we are bodies, we are involved in time and space, but are we? We are one and identical now, then, and forever, here, and everywhere. Therefore we, timeless, and spaceless Being, alone are.”
Forty Verses on Reality – Ramana – Verse 16
We are so heavily addicted to rational thinking that it seems at times almost impossible to open up to a direct realization of what Ramana is talking about. Of course we should be able to get a felt sense of this Fact that is all around us, in our face and completely obvious – but that is not the case. Most of our waking hours and in our dream experiences we move through a card-house made of living images that are ephemeral, fleeting and passing.
What we call happiness are experiences within this card-house and they do not satisfy that deep longing inside for HOME that is the bed-rock of Existence rather than the shifting sands of the content of our consciousness.
The following statements express some views as to ‘how’ we can access our Natural State.
How easy it is to deceive oneself, to project desirable states which are actually experienced, especially when they are pleasure. There’s no illusion, no deception, when there’s no desire, conscious or unconscious, for any experience of any kind, when one’s wholly indifferent to the coming and going of all experience, when one’s not asking for anything.
Why be mean when there are soaring mountains and flashing streams?
Krishnamurti Notebook July 26, 1961
Here you will get to know what is, not what you expect to hear. Duality arises when consciousness arises. I am present and I know that I am present – that is duality. I am and I am not conscious of being present – that is unicity. There is only one, ‘but when this conscious presence is there, then there is a sense of duality.
Questioner: Is a Realized person aware of everything?
N. Actually no one is realized, there is only pure knowledge (the sense of I Am). It is only for reasons of communication that we say a person is realized. The knowledge has realized that it is knowledge; that is all that has happened. I am not the body, I am not the words; when knowledge recognizes this it is called Self-Realization.
Q: The knowledge Maharaj is giving is for jnanis (awakened ones). What happens to the very simple man who is not able to comprehend this?
N: Bhajans (devotional songs) and meditation. By meditation the knowledge which is immature will gradually grow into maturity.
Q. A thousand years ago people were primitive. They could not have understood this. It is only for developed minds.
N. Whether primitive or civilized, people can understand this. Even in those days there must have been some to whom this knowledge did appear and they instinctively understood.
This knowledge is not new; it has always been in existence. People came to know instinctively.
Q. Why is it that India seems to be the cradle of this knowledge? No other country seems to have this knowledge.
N: That is not so. This manifestation is the expression of the Absolute, and the manifestation may take various forms in various countries. Where it takes what kind of expression is immaterial; basically all is the manifestation of the Absolute. There is no cause and effect, no reason why one thing should be in one place and something else in another.
What is to be found out is what one is, by oneself.
Q. Can the Guru give a push toward that knowledge?
N. You think that you are one individual and the Guru is another individual but that is not so. Guru is the knower of this consciousness, which is temporary.
Understand this curious situation: while I am talking to you there is unbearable pain in the body (cancer).
I have understood firmly that there are no individuals separate from one another, no knowledge separate as worldly knowledge and spiritual knowledge. There is no Guru and no disciple, there is no God and no devotee. There are no opposites – they are a polaristic duality, not two separate parts, but two parts of the same one. I am convinced of that and yet I am talking to you. You accept it as knowledge and I give it as knowledge. Understand this amusing factor.
The talks emanate spontaneously out of me; prior to the emanation of the words there is no meaning fabricated inside. There is no part played by the mind. It is direct spontaneity.
Q. What is the definition of consciousness as used by Maharaj?
N. Consciousness, as it is used here, is this sense of being alive, of being present, the sense of existence. It is the love of being that is the source and cause of all desires.
source: Prior to Consciousness, December 9, 1980