Come to a Decision about the Self, God and the World.

 

Sunrise, Aouchtam, Morocco,

Sunrise, Aouchtam, Morocco,

“Questioner: Why did I take this form?

Nisargadatta: Because you were a fool. If you had known anything about it, you would not have come into this world.

Q: First I didn’t’ have any form is that so?

N: Yes, even now you don’t have any form. It is not your shape, it is the shape of the seed.

Q: Isn’t it the nature of the seed that it grows, like a tree grows out of a seed?

N: It is its nature.

Q: So I am not to blame. The seed must be foolish.

N: Because the seed is foolish it has come like this. The seed is the original foolish state, yet what big titles are given to that seed. The seed is transient, and the whole world is full of the seeds. All the five elements, all the objective world, is in that seed. You are not the seed – you are the observer of the seed.

For many centuries the Western people were not interested in spiritual matters, but now they have realized that, in spite of all their riches, they cannot get real peace, so they are searching for the truth now. The nearer you get to the truth, the more you lose interest in the worldly affairs. Such a one will not have any particular interest in the world, but will act like an ordinary person.

The sum and substance of spirituality is nothing but to come to a decision, make a judgment, about the Self, God and the world. – what is it? You must first dispose of this question.

This world is filled up with selfishness due to your association with the body. Once you know what these principles are, then you dissolve the personality, and in the process that selfishness vanishes because you are no longer an individual.

Q: How can I be in my true state and lose my fear?

N: You are already in your true state. Because of the mind, duality comes in and therefore you are afraid. The association with the body and mind is because of the love for the body-mind; that is going to go away, therefore everyone is afraid of death.

Q: The world is given to me by my senses. When you go beyond that state of ‘I Am-ness’ do you experience the world?

N: There is no question of going beyond. I was never born, will never die. Whatever is – is all the time. Going beyond is only an idea meant to remove all other ideas you have accumulate. You think about birth. Do you know anything about your birth?

Q: No, I do not know that I am born. I feel that I am not really born, and yet the world seems so real.

N: Do not worry about the world. First start from here: the ‘I Am,’ and then find out what is the world. Find out the nature of this ‘I.’

Q: Why find out about the ‘I’ which is not real?

N: It is the seed from which everything comes out. If the seed is not there, the universe is not. How have you come into this so-called objective world? Here everything will be wiped out. I invite you, in your own interest, to go home.”

Nisargadatta, Prior to Consciousness p. 34, 35, July 21, 1980

My Comment:

One might get the impression that it makes no sense to do anything if it was foolish to incarnate into the world in the first place. The last lines, however, give us a clue as to what he is pointing to in terms of our life:

“Q: Why find out about the ‘I’ which is not real?

N: It is the seed from which everything comes out. If the seed is not there, the universe is not. How have you come into this so-called objective world?”

Nisargadatta is showing us here the way out of the illusion we are caught in. The question: how have we come into this so-called objective world? includes the inquiry into the character of the “I-ness”. This is to inquire into the seed from which everything comes out. It also means to embrace consciousness, and thus the world of our experiences as the only way to come to a deeper understanding of this “so-called” objective world and how we came into it.

I find this dialog valuable because it so clearly expresses that the world of phenomena as we perceive it does not hold the key to what we are yearning for. 

This next passage sums it up and how one then lives in the world as the understanding of Reality matures:

“For many centuries the Western people were not interested in spiritual matters, but now they have realized that, in spite of all their riches, they cannot get real peace, so they are searching for the truth now. The nearer you get to the truth, the more you lose interest in the worldly affairs. Such a one will not have any particular interest in the world, but will act like an ordinary person.”

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the flame of pure seeing

22 July, 2014

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The flame that burns abhinivesa and completely incinerates that sense of self-importance leaving no residue; then this flame of pure seeing burns without wavering.

[This Sanskrit term abhinivesa is central to the understanding in Yoga of the root cause for all tensions that result in our world of chaos, sorrow and confusion. It is translated as the generally all-pervading sense of self-importance that builds the core of the ego structure and, finally, arises as the fear of not continuing to exist: the fear of death. Yoga Sutra II-9]

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yoga – steady state of mind – sixth exploration

This post is an excerpt of the text on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali: “The Authentic Yoga” by P.Y. Deshpande, in which he gives an excellent overview from Sutra 4 to Sutra 44. This concise exposition of most of Part I of the Yoga Sutras will require some contemplation on the part of those readers who are not already familiar with the terminology and logic of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, thus it is not a “quick read”, but rather a resource for the earnest student of this path.
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psychosomatic bundle ~ VII – Nisargadatta

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The following text is from “Prior to Consciousness” by Nisargadatta Maharaj

“Nisargadatta: Whatever concept you have about yourself cannot be true. The I Amness” is the primary concept, and it has to be satisfied by letting it do its normal work in the world. The important thing is the realization of the fact that it is a concept. Continue reading

to love and be loved ~ VI – Nisargadatta

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Questioner: My fear is not being able to love or be loved.

Nisargadatta: Please understand, feeling love for others, consciously and deliberately, cannot be done. That feeling of love must be understood and then love will unfold itself. Love for the Self, this consciousness, “I Am,” those who have understood this as the true love, have themselves become love. All has merged in them. Continue reading

only by firm conviction ~ V – Nisargadatta

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Nisargadatta: Immortality is beyond time and space; in that timeless, spaceless existence there is no entry for the five elements, for light or darkness, for the sun or the moon. Timeless, spaceless existence doesn’t know that it is. That is reality, That is the truth.

In any amount of meditation, etc., you do not remain in your real state; it is only by firm conviction that you are the highest that you stabilize in the Ultimate. Continue reading

deep, dark blue state ~ IV – Nisargadatta

the deep, dark blue state

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Nisargadatta:  You must come to a firm decision. You must forget the thought that you are a body and be only the knowledge “I Am,” which has no form, no name. Just be. When you stabilize in that beingness it will give you all the knowledge and all the secrets to you, and when the secrets are given to you, you transcend the beingness, and you, the Absolute, will know that you are also not the consciousness. Having gained all this knowledge, having understood what is what, a kind of quietude prevails, a tranquility. Beingness is transcended, but beingness is available. Continue reading